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August 18, 2006



It is because of this kind of thinking that people who believe more liberal things about Chritianity may not agree with the fundamentalist, but still think they are saved and are Christians. The fundamentialists tend to think the more liberal people are not saved and not Christians.

My favorite is when I get accused of "not liking rules" when none of the rules they want me to follow are actually in the Bible.

Did you see the series on Jesus Creed about Zealotry?


Extrabiblical rules is a good example of 21st century Pharisaism. I did see that series, but I don't think I read the whole thing.

Did you see his new series called Emerging and Orthodoxy? It's a good one. I've got a post all set to go with links to it. I also have a post on defining fundamentalism. I'm trying to let this post brew for a little while before I post them, though.


I think that this is a big stumbling block for many that don't believe. They seem to need to be able to quantify and label God. They come at God from a scientific point of view because that is how we are brought up (in general). If you can't quantify it (unless of course a 'scientist' has told you that it is possible) then it doesn't exist.

God is bigger than our silly little minds can ever begin to comprehend. Take what we don't understand about the cosmos and multiply that by 1000 and you still aren't even close.


I agree with Deborah on the 'rules' issue. It is funny when I get accused of that because the person obviously knows nothing about me. If I was against rules I would never have chosen the career I am in.


Good point about not wanting to believe in what we cannot quantify. I wonder if quantum physics helps with that at all? It seems to me that scientists would be more willing to admit how much they don't know based on advances in that field.


I have been reading two books on the universe (The Whole Shebang and Stephen Hawkin's book) and it amazes me the things that they take as fact based on leaps of faith.... but God doesn't exist because they haven't proven it. The Whole Shebang is a very good book. Very down to earth and understandable.


I really liked the 3rd part in the series on Emerging and Orthodoxy where he goes throught the differing reasons people feel drawn to the ec:




That sounds good. My brother Adam is in to that stuff. I'm pretty sure he's read Hawking's book, but I'll ask him about The Whole Shebang. Maybe I'll get it from the library.


I liked that part, too. I think I'm a combination of all four, with the exception that I'm not really THAT into the political aspects. I think the justice issues are important, but I don't feel led to be personally involved. If pressed, I would probably say that I fall into the "postmodern" group with the "postevangelical" impulse close behind.


Another good one is Bill Bryson's "A Short History of Nearly Everything". It is in layman's english and he has a lot of fun with the points that form the foundation of scientific facts but either are not physically possible or scientists don't understand/can't explain.

The guy also has a great sense of humor so the book is really fun.

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